Trump campaign chief says the Trump team was split into two halves after election night — 'Team Normal' and 'Team Giuliani'

Former Trump campaign chief Bill Stepien (left) says he did not mind being called part of "Team Normal," as opposed to Team Giuliani.

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• Former Trump campaign chief Bill Stepien said he was part of "Team Normal" in the Trump camp.
• In opposition to "Team Normal," Stepien said, was the team led by Rudy Giuliani.
• Giuliani aggressively pushed Trump's voter fraud claims while Stepien distanced himself from the campaign.

Former Trump campaign chief Bill Stepien says the Trump team was split into two camps after the election – "Team Normal" and "Team Giuliani." 

The House Select Committee to Investigate January 6 played a clip of Stepien's testimony on Monday during the second of the committee's six public hearings. During his deposition, Stepien was asked if he had pulled back from the Trump camp to preserve his professional reputation. 

"You didn't want to be associated with some of what you were hearing from the Giuliani team and others that — that sort of stepped in in the wake of your departure?" an unidentified questioner asked Stepien. 

"I didn't mind being categorized. There were two groups of them. We called them kind of my team and Rudy's team. I — I didn't mind being characterized as being part of Team Normal, as — as reporters, you know, kind of started to do around that point in time," Stepien said. 

Stepien added that he had worked in political campaigning "for a long time," with his work spanning ideologies from former President Donald Trump, Arizona Sen. John McCain, former President George W. Bush, and former New Jersey GOP Gov. Chris Christie. 

Stepien then added that he quit after the election because he did not think what was happening was honest or professional. 

"And, you know, I can work under a lot of circumstances for a lot of varied, you know, candidates and politicians," Stepien added. "But a situation where — and I think along the way, I've built up a pretty good — I hope a good reputation for being honest and — and professional, and I didn't think what was happening was necessarily honest or professional at that point in time." 

Giuliani led the Trump campaign's legal team and led a rollicking press conference in November 2020, where he made bizarre, baseless claims about voter fraud while his hair dye trickled down his face. 

A longtime political operative, Stepien became Trump's campaign manager four months before the 2020 election, per CBS, taking over Brad Parscale. Stepien was originally one of the witnesses scheduled to testify at the second televised hearing, but bowed out after his wife went into labor Monday morning. 

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